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COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT DESIGN REVIEW BOARD
April 24, 2002
Members Present: Elliotte Quinn, Chairman; Bubber Hutto, Vice
Chair; Everette Jones, Fred Peccini, Jill Brooks, Charles
Apter, Warren Pruitt
Member Absent: None
Staff Present: Michael Robertson - Planning Department
Eddie Bernard - Planning Department
Mr. Quinn opened the meeting at 5:02 pm. He introduced the
board members and staff and explained procedure and time
limits.
Old Business
1. S&ME Office Building, Wando Park Boulevard--Preliminary
Approval for site, landscape, and architecture
Presenters: Rush Dixon - Stubbs, Muldrow, Herrin
Myers Mast - SWA
Chris Frasier - owner
Site Comments: Mr. Mast described the 2 acre site as
part of the Wando Park Planned Development and adjacent to the
McKay Building. He pointed out the drainage easement and
overhead power line at the rear of the site. They have tried
to save several large trees on the site--gums, live oaks, and
pines. At the last meeting they discussed moving the building
forward; but, Wando Park covenants require a 50’ building
setback. They prepared a site plan showing the building
forward ten feet so they could get the pond… The original plan
has the pond encroaching into the tree setbacks. They are able
to keep the building where it was, maintain the 50’ setback
along Wando Park
Boulevard, chop off part of the back area, thus reshaping the
pond to stay out of the trees. It also allowed them to save
another 20” oak back there. The dumpster has been added and
the HVAC units have been located. The whole area at the rear
will be paved instead of partially graveled. S&ME has many
large trucks, which would make maintaining gravel difficult.
There is a concrete pad at the back of the building for the
warehouse area, which is used for equipment maintenance and
soil storage. There will also be a flag pole. The fence at
the rear will be chain link--probably black, vinyl coated. The
visible fence would have a dark green mesh as well as the area
around the dumpster. Mr. Apter said the upper left section of
the rear parking area has a couple of trees lost. He suggested
the applicant cheat a little bit by coming down in parking
space numbers; they could save the trees and still have
basically the same number of parking spaces. Mr. Mast said
that is a definite possibility. S&ME is looking at that as a
service area, and the owner is comfortable with the parking
provided. Mr. Apter said he would be more comfortable if the
two trees in the corner could be saved. Mr. Pruitt asked if
the chain link fence will definitely be black. Mr. Mast said
they could definitely make it black. Mr. Hutto asked if the
HVAC units will be screened. Mr. Mast said they will be
screened with hedges which can be enlarged. Mr. Quinn asked
staff if the HVAC units have to have a wall of some sort. Mr.
Robertson said they do, but there is more flexibility in a
Light Industrial area.
Architectural Comments: Mr. Dixon said the building’s design
and materials were somewhat influenced by the nature of what
the company does. Since it is a Light Industrial site, earthy
colors and materials will be used. Split-face block will go at
the base with rough textured cast-in-place concrete lintels.
The concrete cylinders impression plays on the concrete testing
aspect of the business. The front entry has a wood structural
element. EPAY is a very rot resistant material used for the
framing system. He had a detail of the EPAY and steel beam and
bolt worked out. The corrugated siding will be painted a
different shade of green and will go on the second story
vertically. Another change is in the window mullions. The
applicant decided to keep the double hung 2 over 2 windows with
the mullion pattern that worked with the industrial windows
below. Materials include cementitious siding and trim painted
white with white soffits. There is a detail of how the siding
intersects with windows and corners. The roof will be standing
seam metal in a rusty red; black storefront windows (aluminum
clad wood). Mr. Peccini said there was a comment made about
the detailing of the corrugated siding and how the edges are
treated. How is that going to work? Mr. Dixon said typical
jamb details need something to tie into, so they had to create
a key condition. The window frame is an exaggerated frame, but
the corner conditions will be very similar to that. It would
mirror itself. The corner would be just like the jamb. A
double layer of the cementitious material will cover the
opening (1 ½”). Mr. Jones asked about the lighting standards.
Mr. Dixon said a shoebox fixture was submitted, but it is not
allowed by the town. The photometrics will have to be redone
and resolved with staff. Mr. Apter asked how the style of the
building would be described. Mr. Dixon said he has used “light
industrial” and “agricultural” to describe it. He would say
neo-industrial as the best way. Mr. Apter said there are some
very attractive buildings in that area, like Rice Planter’s,
and this one does not really fit. He does not think it is an
attractive building.
STAFF
Site Comments: Staff has met with the applicant. The rear
fence type should be better identified. At the previous
meeting black vinyl coating was discussed. No tree protection
plan was submitted in this set, which will be needed prior to
pulling any permits. Given their proximity to construction,
the cluster of trees containing the 34” gum to the rear and the
cluster around the 32” gum to the side of the building should
be protected with 2x4 barricades. The HVAC units should be
shielded from view with either a hedge or fence. Staff would
like to see a substitute for the eleagnus in the rear buffer
due to their invasive, spreading nature. With the
understanding that the site is pretty flat and it may not show
well on the grading plan, it should be shown in some fashion
that the backfill on the curbs is to slope down quickly to
existing grade at the existing trees. Staff recommends
approval.
Architectural Comments: This design received preliminary
approval at the February 27, 2002, meeting. The Board made the
following motion:
MOTION: Mr. Pruitt made a motion for Preliminary
Approval of site and building. Seconded by Mr. Jones.
Discussion: Mr. Hutto asked if the motion includes the
comments about moving the building forward. Mr. Pruitt said
his thought was that the applicant would work it out with
staff. Call for the question: All in favor. MOTION CARRIED.
Staff has no concerns with the building design and the Board
did not require any alterations to the design. Photometric
plans along with cut-sheets of the fixture are required for
final DRB approval. Neither was included in this submittal.
Staff recommends approval with lighting standards and
photometrics to be approved before any permits will be issued.
Public Comments: There was no one to speak for or
against the project; therefore, this portion was closed and Mr.
Quinn requested comments from the staff.
Board Comments: Mr. Pruitt said he is concerned with
the transition from the corrugated material down to the block.
He was looking forward to seeing a wall section of that detail,
but there was not one in the package. He is still a little
foggy about what the building will actually look like. It is
somewhat radical in its choice of materials. The form, idea,
and concept are fine, but he does not understand how it will be
put together. Ms. Brooks said she likes the idea of using the
elements the company works with. She asked to see the steel
material. Mr. Dixon explained that the column sits on a
stainless steel plate that sits on top of the concrete. Ms.
Brooks asked about the color. Mr. Dixon said the EPAY is a
mahogany colored material. Mr. Peccini said EPAY is the
species, and it goes by several brand names--one is Ironwood.
Mr. Dixon said the material ages over time and it can be
sealed. Mr. Peccini said given the location and function of
the building, it is very interesting. Light Industrial would
be the right place to experiment. The context is not so much
the buildings down the road as it is the highway. The
proportions of the building are good, and the materials are
unconventional but appropriate. Mr. Quinn said it is an
industrial building with style--bold. He hopes it comes
together well.
MOTION: Mr. Jones made a motion for Final Approval for
site, landscape, and architecture. Seconded by Mr. Peccini.
Discussion: Mr. Hutto said it would include reconfiguring the
parking to save the trees, screening the HVAC, black around the
fence, site lighting to be approved by staff. Mr. Jones said
that was included, but he does not have a problem with it being
in there. Mr. Jones accepted the amendment. Seconded by Mr.
Peccini. Call for the question: MOTION CARRIES 6 to 1 with
Mr. Pruitt opposing.
New Business
1. Six Mile Center, 2191 Highway 17N (corner of Six Mile
Road)-- Conceptual Review
Presenters: Bobby Bryant - Real estate broker
Doug Cowden -
Site Comments: Mr. Bryant said the property consists
of two parcels and is under contract. He called Kenny Seamon
to learn the process he went through in subdividing the corner
lot. The corner lot used to be a part of the building where
Nationwide is located. The owner subdivided it, sold the
building, and created a .51 acre corner lot. The parcel behind
it is 1.3 acres. He did not want to come in and just build an
office building; he might as well make it worthwhile as an
investment venture. Mr. Cowden told him the town would
probably allow a 2000 square footprint for that corner lot.
Mr. Cowden said they tried to integrate the front parcel with
the second parcel from a flow standpoint of bringing people off
and onto the property. The larger building is to be retail
office. Allocated parking is 70 spaces plus three
handicapped. He is keenly aware of the town’s needs in trying
to promote the rear parking. Each case has its own answers.
Some larger projects that came into the town recently have a
big anchor tenant while using a large parking lot on the inside
surrounded with buildings. Buildings on Egypt Road have a
façade at the rear to make them look more presentable from the
road. He has a problem with seeing what are obviously back
doors and garbage cans, mops, brooms, chairs, etc. He does not
want to see that at Six Mile. Also, a school is across the
street from the Six Mile property. He sees this project as
serving the needs of people attending the school. Providing
the building with four finished sides would make it more
appealing. Also, some of the retail needs to be seen. It is
difficult to flip a building around and put up a wall of rear
entrances and then put a parking lot next to a trailer park.
Flow and safety make it more advisable for front loaded
parking. Also, they would like to put a sidewalk across the
front with a bridge across the retention area to create an
entrance to the property. Columns, brick, and fencing would
give a pedestrian feel. The lot will be heavily landscaped,
allowing for screening of the parking area. They are aware of
the 150’ rule for entrances and exits. They are looking to
enter into the private road, which is actually an easement
across the property indicated, to the trailer park. That would
take some of the pressure off the intersection at 17. Retail
businesses start after schools starts; school ends before
retail businesses close. The traffic would not be an issue.
They would like to see the entrance onto the private road and
then on to Six Mile as a means of ingress/egress for people
coming from Rifle Range. That would keep them away from the
intersection at 17 and provide more access for the people in
the trailer park behind the site. The rear will have a service
entrance; thus keeping trucks and delivery vans off the main
parking area. The center will be a traditional urban type with
a covered walkway. All the alleyways are 24 feet. They have
already adjusted for the 50’ county overlay.
Architectural Comments: Mr. Cowden said the predominant
building in the area is Laing School--a brick building with
flat roof. The proposed brick building with stucco and
Lowcountry materials and a standing seam metal roof would pick
up the elements from across the street. This would create
architectural harmony on that corner. The office building
picks up some elements of the center, so there is harmony in
that respect as well. The windows will be framed in anodized
aluminum bronze and be tinted. The brick will be the old
Guignard brick with white watertable to enhance it. Mr. Apter
asked if the landscaping is in excess of the requirements. Mr.
Cowden said the plan shows the buffer yards, and they feel
landscaping should go beyond that. They would like to see a
nice tree-lined street as you turn down Six Mile Road. The
rear of the building is basically unseen because of its
proximity to the buffer. Mr. Pruitt said he can see both sides
of the argument for where the building should be located. His
children have gone to Laing School, so he knows what the
traffic circulation is like out there. It bothers him to talk
about screening out the trailer park; we need to think about
what is best for them too. Perhaps it would be best for the
building to be closer to the street, and then the retention
pond could become a real element. He understands the concern
with back doors and service entrances, but there are ways to
handle it well (i.e. Brookgreen Center). As far as the site,
maybe the building could be broken in two and turned 90 degrees
to create a courtyard. That may play off the school entrance
more and create a courtyard and long vistas back to the trailer
park. He is not real fond of the architecture--it is way too
urban for that location. It should be more rural in character
with Hardi-plank siding, hipped roof, gabled ends, etc. Mr.
Peccini said a gable roof on this size building would be
massive. The building is a first down short of a football
field.
STAFF
Site Comments: The proposal shows an encroachment into
the ten foot C buffer opposite the mobile homes. The area in
the front of the large building shows more than 12 parking
spaces in a row without a planted island. It is unclear
whether or not this submittal is leaving the existing building
(C-2) in place or not. If it is to stay, the site layout
should be shown, as it creates difficult circulation on the
site. This also makes it appear that a drive aisle wider than
24’ is shown. This proposal does not show the 50’ county
overlay buffer along 17, and also shows encroachment into the
10’ C buffer opposite the mobile homes. The area in front of
the large building shows more than 12 parking spaces in a row
without a planted island. I assume a shared access agreement
is in place for the private road. The 150’ curb cut separation
is violated twice along the private road. No building use or
sizes have been shown for a determination of parking numbers.
Like the proposed building at the corner of 17 and Six Mile,
the larger building should also be brought up to the road,
which also remedies the curb cut separation issue. Staff would
not support this proposal.
Architectural Comments: The applicant met with staff to discuss
this design and layout. None of our comments were incorporated
into the design. Section 156.244 (S) requires “all buildings
shall be sited so that a direct relationship with the primary
street is established. The architecture, landscaping and
building siting must work in concert to create a unified
appearance that contributes to the existing/developing
streetscape.” The ordinance further requires that “buildings
shall be sited so that the majority of parking is located to
the side and rear of the building (§156.244 (Q)). The site and
building layout easily lend themselves to being reversed with
the building located along the street and all parking to the
rear. As such the plan would meet the ordinance requirements
and properly anchor the streetscape creating a more inviting
pedestrian corridor along Six Mile Road.
The architecture does not reflect the guidelines and standards
required by the ordinance and the Board. Section 156.243 (M)
and (W) require “specific consideration shall be given to [a
buildings] compatibility with adjacent structures where such
structures are substantially in compliance with these §§156.40
through 156.244 and 156.098.” This is the first proposed
structure in this vicinity to be reviewed by the DRB. Most
other buildings were built in the county without any design
considerations or were built before the advent of the DRB. The
structures in the immediate vicinity do not meet the DRB
standards and cannot therefore be used to determine the
architecture of this structure.
The Six Mile community is noted in our Comprehensive Plan as a
residential settlement which recognizes its unique and historic
development pattern. As the Town has grown to incorporate and
surround these communities, it is important that our
development respect the unique aspects of this community and
reflect a traditional community growth pattern. The design of
this building follows a more urban flat-roofed main street type
of architecture that is more indicative of Towne Centre over a
mile and a half away instead of the rural, agrarian community
which it serves. The design of these structures should follow a
design theme more consistent with the retail buildings along
Egypt Road (Belle Station Food Lion) that front the Snowden
Community a similar rural, agrarian settlement. Section 156.243
(F) states that “proposed structures will contribute to the
image of the Town as a unique place of visual character,
integrity, and quality.” The architecture should reflect the
character of that portion of the community in which it is
located. The ordinance also requires a more rural type of
architecture in Section 156.243 (R) which states that “flat
roofs will not be discouraged where they are appropriate to the
design theme of a structure.” Flat roofs would not be
appropriate at this location since they are recognized as an
urban commercial corridor roof form more appropriate for a King
Street or in some cases Coleman Boulevard not rural
communities. The building should incorporate a pitched roof
over the structure. If a flat roof portion is required for
mechanical units, these could be incorporated on a flat rear
half that is designed to appear as a later addition such as on
the Belle Station buildings.
Further, §156.243 (H) notes that all elevations of a structure
should be in harmony with one another in terms of scale,
proportion, detail, material, color, and high design quality.”
The sides and rear of the building exhibit no details or
relationship to the front elevation. Section 156.243 (L) states
that “long, monotonous façade design, including, but not
limited to, those characterized by unrelieved repetition of
shape or form, or by unbroken extension of line, shall not be
permitted.” The sides and rear do not use any detail or
architectural treatment to break up the massing or relieve the
unadorned façade. Finally, the second floor and sign band area
of the building is projected beyond the first floor on the end
elevations. These sections of building should be in the same
plane with a canopy or awning to protect pedestrians. The
feature is awkward and does not follow traditional building
practices. As a result, the “materials do not express their
function clearly and honestly [and] are foreign to the
character of the rest of the building (§156.243 (O).
Since the siting and design of the building do not incorporate
any of the design guidelines required in the ordinance nor do
they reflect the unique character or begin to establish any
streetscape character to the Six Mile community, staff
recommends restudy.
Mr. Cowden asked if he could comment. The end elevations are
just detail in the stucco. Also, they did not go that far with
the design because they are not here for that type of
approval.
Board Comments: Mr. Peccini said they first have to
consider the height, scale, and mass of the building--whether
it should be two buildings or one large one. The ordinance
requires the building be forward, and the preponderance of
parking should be at the rear. The board should not go against
the ordinance, but something that close to the street becomes
massive and the scale is all wrong. The applicant needs
guidance in that respect. Mr. Pruitt suggested an arc wall
articulation along the street frontage to break up the mass.
Mr. Quinn said he and Mr. Hutto have been sketching; they
suggest making the building into two connected boxes with some
parking at the front and sides. Mr. Hutto said the pond could
be made into a feature instead of a long ditch. Mr. Bryant
said the owner of the trailer park has gotten two contracts on
it; this center will be here long after the trailer park is
gone. Mr. Jones asked if the trailer park is in the town.
Mr. Robertson said he would have to check. Mr. Quinn suggested
using rural elements would give the project a residential
feel. It can be worked out.
2. O’Charley’s Restaurant, Towne Centre (next to Eckerds)--
Preliminary Approval for site,
landscape, and architecture
Presenters: Roy Williams - E&H Architects
Site Comments: Mr. Williams said O’Charley’s is based
in Nashville with 550 stores providing high quality food and
beverages in a community atmosphere. The site for the
restaurant is on the corner of Towne Centre near IHOP with a
small adjacent lot proposed Commercial. The two curb cuts are
on the Eckerds parcel and the other property line. The
building will be 6800 square feet and will address the street.
Parking will be at the rear and side with curbing layed out in
an attempt to salvage as many trees as possible. There is a
dense cluster with some blank areas; mainly gum trees with one
or two live oaks. The small island indicated straddles the
line between the site and the adjacent commercial property. At
68 spaces, it is the minimal amount of parking for a restaurant
of this size and projected volume. The service area was
indicated as along the landscaped buffer area. The dumpsters
will be enclosed with brick walls. Proposed grading for the
site increases the grade at the highest point not more than 24
inches. It will tie into existing grades on both sides--
adjacent proposed commercial lot, Eckerds, and the existing
curb cuts.
Architectural Comments: Mr. Williams said the original concept
18 years ago was an old, historic, downtown warehouse
building. There is simple massing, simple clean elements, and
not a lot of thematic interpretation. The top has brick
corbelling, row locks, and soldier coursing to provide
architectural interest. The entry tower element has increased
height, much like a corner main street building would have.
There is a tile mosaic pattern to add visual interest and to
identify the corner as the entry. Gooseneck fixtures are used
for down lighting on the green roofs and striped awnings. The
proposed elevation has neon tubing; but, he understands that is
not looked upon favorably here. Other materials are dark green
storefront windows, glass block, and heavy wood doors at the
entry. There has been some refinement to the right elevation,
which is seen from the commercial side. The restaurant has a
very nice back bar of custom designed mahogany and glass
shelves. They have incorporated a nice area of glass block
there instead of storefront windows to give texture and light
and visual interest. Mr. Apter asked how different this
building is from the others. Mr. Williams said it is somewhat
similar to buildings done in the past, but they no longer do
some of the things proposed here--antique style gooseneck
fixtures and tile mosaic patterns. The key building right now
is the fifth generation of building for O’Charley’s, and it
does not look anything like this. It has a stone entry and
less masonry, more wood, and is smaller. It would not fit into
Towne Centre at all. They have pulled all the best elements
used in the past together for this project. Mr. Apter asked if
it is different than the other O’Charley’s in town. Mr.
Williams said he does not recall that location. He would be
inclined to think it is similar to that building. That store
has an element on the right elevation that this building does
not have. It has another element at the front with a roof over
it. This building has a different bar layout. Mr. Apter said
he would help himself by not describing Highway 27 in SC. He
does not know where that is. Mr. Williams said some of the
people working for him went to Mississippi State. Mr. Apter
agreed that the neon tubing would be a problem. Mr. Jones
asked if the awning is a bright red. Mr. Williams indicated
the colors on the drawing. Mr. Peccini asked how far away the
real texture is compared to what is depicted. Mr. Williams
said it is very accurate.
STAFF
Site Comments: This proposal shows 8 spaces over the allotted
paved spaces per ordinance. Staff would recommend eliminating
the two spaces to the front of the future retail area so that
no spaces are in front of the building. In doing so, the
parking may then start in place of the island, run 12 spaces,
then end a space shy of the proposed layout and pick up an
additional large gum tree. The parking island to the center
with the 16” oak should be enlarged 1 space to better
accommodate the protective zone and in the process could pick
up the smaller gum to the side also. The bay of two spaces
towards the detention could be eliminated and pick up an
additional tree and better accommodate the two adjacent tree
protective zones. In regard to sidewalks some additional walks
should be added. These include one to the side heading to
Eckerd’s to create a pedestrian link, on connecting the parking
lot to the front corner of the building, and some means of
allowing pedestrian traffic through the long middle island to
the rear. It also appears that the present detention layout
restricts the ability to continue the sidewalk that will run
parallel with the future building and the rear parking area.
Staff would also like to see an alternative to the drainage
flume bisecting the island between the two buildings so that
the root zones are left more in tact.
Architectural Comments: The developer met with staff to discuss
several site plans for this property but architectural
elevations were not discussed. Further, the applicant asked for
a conceptual review but submitted enough information for
preliminary approval and in order to expedite the process,
staff changed the request to preliminary.
The DRB guidelines do not allow prototype architecture which
this building certainly is (156.243 (U). However, we believe
that the basic building design is not too out of keeping with
the design themes of Towne Centre and can be modified to meet
the DRB guidelines. Staff has no real concerns with the design
noting that while it has a flat roof (156.243 (R)), it is
located in one of the three urban corridors-Towne Centre.
Staff’s primary concern is with various details and design
elements.
First, each building should have a base, middle, and top
(156.243 (M)). A watertable or some type of base should be
incorporated along the building. A stronger cornice line should
be added more in keeping with the belt course below it. Once a
base is added to the design, a stronger top or cornice will be
needed to carry the other details. Second, the windows, which
have a nice display type appearance indicative of “main street”
style architecture should incorporate a storefront mullion
pattern in keeping with the other buildings in the center. They
should also incorporate a lintel as well as a sill. Currently,
no lintels are shown. The projecting element (front elevation)
needs more refinement and a differentiation from the main
building core. This could be achieved through the addition of
the base, refinement of the window pattern and arrangement, and
also a restudy of the material at this element.
The window pattern and building design needs refinement on the
right elevation (the second most visible) so that the windows
establish a consistent design element on the building. In the
center of this elevation, the awning covers three windows
conveying the idea of a single building element while the
windows and wall plane do not reflect any consistent design
theme (156.243 (H)(J)).
The left elevation faces the neighboring Eckerds building with
a drive aisle along its length. This blank and bland façade
should incorporate design elements to break down the massing
and add detail in keeping with and established design theme
(156.243 (I)(L)(M)). This element should be consistent with
those incorporated on the other elevations. The ladder should
be relocated to the service area at the rear of the building
(156.243 (S)).
The rear elevation should differentiate between the service
area and the pedestrian entrance element. The metal fence does
not meet the ordinance requirements and should be a brick fence
to match the rest of the structure (156.243 (S) (T)). Another
detail to note is the brick itself. A field brick will cause
the little bit of architectural detail such as the soldier
course at the cornice and the belt course in the wall plane to
be completely lost. A solid brick, more in keeping with other
buildings in the center should be substituted. It is a waste to
add the necessary detailing to meet the ordinance requirements
when the material will not allow them to be seen.
The neon banding on the building is not allowed by ordinance
and must be removed (156.254 (B)(2)). Finally, the signs shown
on the elevations should be contained within a sign band area
designed into the building and not project over the roof
(§156.157 (H)). Staff believes that the design can be easily
altered to be in compliance with the DRB guidelines and also
fit into the design of the center. This could have easily been
achieved it the architect had met with staff to discuss the
design prior to submitting for approvals. Staff recommends
restudy with the above mentioned items to be incorporated and a
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