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PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
December 3, 2002
Committee Members Present: Joe Bustos, William Van Nort, Paul
Gawrych, Kruger Smith
Staff Present: Mac Burdette, Joel Ford, Christiane Farrell,
Brad Morrison, Saila Toropainen, Liz Boyles, Allen Young, Kevin
Mitchell, Colleen Jernigan, Lee Cave
Council Members Present: Larry Carr, Thomasena Stokes-
Marshall, Bobby Utsey
Mr. Bustos called the meeting to order at 12:32 pm, introduced
Committee and Council members, and explained procedure.
1. Approval of Minutes
MOTION: Mr. Smith made a motion to approve the minutes of the
November, 2002 meeting. Seconded by Mr. Gawrych. Call for the
question: All in favor. MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION: Mr. VanNort made a motion to amend the agenda in order
to move up items 6 and 11. Seconded by Mr. Gawrych. Call for
the question: All in favor. MOTION CARRIED.
2. RiverTowne Condominiums--amend condition of motion
Mr. Ford said staff received a letter from the Ginn Company
requesting a deferral. Also, at the last meeting the Planning
Committee instructed Mr. Ford and Mr. Young to meet with
notable parties of the HOA. Mr. Ford did try to contact a
Mr.Fillipone, and Ms. Farrell spoke with him. Mr. Fillipone
could not be here due to a death in his family. They are
trying to set up a meeting between the developer and Mr. Young
to discuss the technicalities of the two conditions.
MOTION: Mr. VanNort made a motion to defer this agenda item
until the next regularly scheduled Planning Committee meeting.
Seconded by Mr. Gawrych. Call for the question: All in
favor. MOTION CARRIED.
3. Request to rezone from CO, Conservation-Open Space, to
R-1, Low-Density Residential, a 1.147 acre marsh island portion
of a vacant lot located off Brick Kiln Point and bearing a TMS#
583-13-00-038.
Mr. Burdette said Jack Smith is here to represent the property
owners and request a deferral.
Mr. Ford said the applicant is trying to receive information
from Archives and History regarding the significance of an
Indian archeological site that is related to the nature of this
rezoning request. The applicant has not received the requested
information yet.
Mr. Smith said since they are waiting for Archives and History,
and making history is sometimes slow, it may be judicious to
ask for 60 days.
MOTION: Mr. Gawrych made a motion to defer this agenda item to
the February Planning Committee meeting. Seconded by Mr.
VanNort. Discussion: Mr. Smith said if the information comes
in early, the applicant is certainly welcome to come back
before the 60 days. Mr. Burdette said this item was deferred
by Council, so it will be on the agenda. Mr. Bustos said this
will be a recommendation for deferral to the full Council. Call
for the question: All in favor. MOTION CARRIED.
4. Updates
a. Building Permit Allocation Program
Ms. Toropainen said a deadline just passed on December 1st for
the January 1st allocation. January 1st will be the 3rd
quarter of this fiscal year, and there will be 217 single
family permits available at that time. Applications for 79
have been received; thus leaving a surplus of 138. No other
low income housing allocations have been issued; nor any multi-
family allocations.
Mr. Bustos clarified that through June 30, 2007, there are
2,677 single family permits available.
5. Building Code amendments - Mr. Santos
a. Proposal to amend building codes
b. Code violation fines
Mr. Santos said the building codes need to be straightened up
and strengthened. Right now shelving board or anything can be
used around windows, doors, corner boards, etc. After a year
or two they rot and decay, so he would like the Committee to
ask staff to look into adjusting the building codes to require
all outside trim be made of rot-resistant or treated wood.
This would be a good way to protect citizens and help them know
that a house will last a good while.
Mr. Burdette said the Committee needs to understand that to
exceed the SC code they need to go through a board procedure.
Mr. Cave said recently he spoke with Larry Wiggins, the
administrator for the SC Building Codes Council. Mr. Wiggins
said any request for modifying the codes would have to go on
the agenda for that Council and demonstrate geographical or
chronological reasons why our code should be different than
everywhere else in the state. For this particular issue of
architectural trim, Mr. Wiggins suggested researching through
the National Weather Service. Mr. Cave said it would be easy
enough to demonstrate this area’s high humidity level and
rainfall averages. It can conceivably get done.
Mr. Burdette asked if Mr. Cave can handle new regulations with
his current staff.
Mr. Cave said he could. At some point they would have to get
into quality control--other than just code issues--and that may
tax his staff further. It’s hard to say at this point of the
allocation program.
Mr. Burdette said if the Committee wants to look into this he
would suggest a working Committee of professional inspectors
and people in the industry. They would make a list of obvious
problems, not warranty issues.
Mr. Smith said if the change does come about, it would be
difficult for Mr. Cave to police it. Would his staff have the
ability or recourse for fines to the builder? Or, if it is not
caught and a CO is issued, would that give the builder a clean
slate?
Mr. Cave said to his knowledge there is no statute of
limitations. A CO being issued would not draw a line on his
ability to enforce a code violation after the fact.
Mr. Smith said as long as the code violation could be
documented, the owner of the building has some recourse.
Mr. Cave said his gauge is whether he is comfortable in a court
of law to without a doubt demonstrate someone violated the
codes. Thankfully, most builders have moved away from using
wood trim around windows. He prefers to gain compliance over
going to court.
Mr. Burdette asked if Mr. Cave has some concerns with the
quality of workmanship and supervision in the field.
Mr. Cave said without a doubt he has concerns. With so many
production builders, and because of the number of houses they
are trying to turn over every month, quality supervision is
hard to provide. He doesn’t know how to solve the problem.
Mr. Santos said the site he visited did not have anyone who
could speak English.
Mr. Smith said when they ran into a similar problem of call
backs for re-inspections, they changed the fine to make it more
punitive.
Mr. Cave said the $20 re-inspection fee didn’t work, so they
upped it to $50. It has helped some, but they still do a lot
of re-inspections--40 percent.
Mr. Smith suggested making the fine more punitive.
Mr. Cave said they use the re-inspection fee as a tool if they
feel their time has been compromised.
Mr. Burdette said it may be February until staff can get back
to the Committee on this issue.
MOTION: Mr. Smith made a motion to ask staff to consider a
proposal to amend the building codes and code violation fines
as a result of negligent code violations. Seconded by Mr.
Gawrych. Discussion: Mr. Gawrych said perhaps this is an
opportunity for the Town to reach out to builders. Mr. Cave
said his department’s rapport with the building community,
their management, is very good. They run into problems with
the guys in the field actually doing the work--subcontractors
supervised by one of the builder’s representatives. The
representatives are spread so thin that it is hard to make sure
quality work is being done. Mr. Gawrych said which in turn
would mean there is a problem with the management. If managers
cannot control their employees… We need to make sure they’re
aware of what is being done. Mr. Santos said he contacted the
supervisor of the workers shown in his photograph. The
supervisor told Mr. Santos that they saw the rot and were
instructed to cover it. That type of intentional negligence is
what he wants to go after. Workers do as they’re told in many
cases. It doesn’t start with those workers; it actually goes
up much further than that. A little slap on the wrist won’t
stop it from happening. The builders need to be substantially
impacted in a negative way to insure they do a good job. Two
or three years down the line, the house is rotten, the builder
is gone, the warranty is over, and the owners are stuck with
fixing their own house. Call for the question: All in favor.
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Burdette said at this point, this issue would stay at the
Committee level.
6. Open Space Foundation
Mr. Burdette said there are two parts to this agenda item—
whether or not the Board will come back to Council for budget
approval and for amending its own bylaws.
Mr. Smith asked if this affects their tax free status.
Mr. Robert Dodds, attorney
Mr. Dodds said going either way on either issue would not
affect the 501C3 status. From a tax and a legal perspective,
they are free to go either way. There are certain inherent
constraints on the board, even if the Town doesn’t require
them. They couldn’t fundamentally alter their purpose so that
they go beyond the scope of what’s been approved without going
back to the IRS and seeking further approval. But there is
some legal room, and the way to make sure they don’t deviate is
to require they come back to the Council.
Mr. Burdette asked if the amendments are added, would there
still be the flexibility as originally intended?
Mr. Dodds said the bylaws are the governing instrument and set
forth the specific purposes for which the organization was
created. It won’t take away the necessary operating
flexibility that they need to function as a separate entity.
Also, they’ll be forced to operate within the constraints of a
budget. With non-profits and the way they generate funds, most
of the time the people giving them the money place further
constraints. If it is reasonable to expect for this to work,
the Town will have to be committed at some level, financially.
Mr. VanNort said the two changes need to be made.
Mr. Smith said eventually the municipalities will probably be
the conduit for the monies.
MOTION: Mr. Smith made a motion to request Council to do a
resolution supporting the two changes as presented by staff.
Seconded by Mr. VanNort. Call for the question: All in
favor. MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Burdette said the second part of the guidance request is
appointing the board. The plan is to advertise openings, then
seek volunteers for the seven member board. Three have to be
from Mount Pleasant, and there are categories for four members
such as attorney, conservation work, etc. The respondents’
names will be provided to Council so they can nominate
individuals above and beyond those volunteers. The cutoff date
would probably be at the end of January. Staff will create a
matrix of all the names so Council can rate them and have an
Executive Session. They can ask Council to authorize the
Committee to make a recommendation.
Mr. Smith asked how widely they would advertise.
Mr. Burdette said they would advertise in the Post & Courier
and the Moultrie News.
The Committee agreed to the proposal.
Mr. Burdette said he would send out a memo to that effect
before Tuesday night; so, if anybody wishes to raise an
objection, it can be discussed by Council at that time.
7. Review of Planning Commission Recommendations from the
November 20, 2002, meeting
a. Proposal to amend the following sections of the
Zoning Code of the Town of Mount Pleasant Code of Ordinances
pertaining to the sequencing of terms of office on boards and
commissions:
Section 156.400(B) Term of Office (Planning
Commission)
Section 156.420(B) Term of Office (Commercial
Development DRB)
Section 156.431(B) Term of Office (Town
Appearance Commission)
Ms. Toropainen said the Planning Committee directed staff to
review the terms of office for boards and commissions,
specifically for DRB and TAC in which up to four terms would
expire at the same time in certain years. The Town had adopted
similar changes for the terms of the BOZA. The terms for BOZA
were arranged so that each January, two terms will expire at
one time. Changes along those same lines are proposed for the
Planning Commission, DRB, and TAC. Staff looked at current
terms and scheduled them so two terms would expire each
January. According to this proposal, no current terms would be
reduced; if necessary, current terms would be extended beyond
the four year term. This modification would enable the Town to
review applications and conduct interviews once per year for
all boards, and streamline the board approval process. The
Planning Commission held a public hearing, and there was nobody
from the public to speak for or against the item. The Planning
Commission forwards to this Committee a recommendation only
pertaining to the Planning Commission’s terms of office. They
recommended that these amendments not be adopted, but the
Planning Commission terms of office will remain as currently
scheduled. The Planning Commission sent this proposal to DRB
and TAC for their review and comment. Due to the scheduling of
board meetings in December, the earliest the commission can
receive a response is during the January meeting.
Mr. Ford said the Planning Commission will be making a
recommendation at a later date.
Mr. Bustos asked how much more information they need.
Mr. Ford said the commission just wants the other boards’
opinion. Ultimately, it is the Committee’s decision. This
Committee had a problem with the fact that several board
members expired at the same time. Staff addressed that and
tried to put it in a reasonable time frame.
Ms. Toropainen said the earliest the issue could come back to
this Committee would be February.
MOTION: Mr. Smith made a motion to defer this item for a period
of 60 days or until the Committee meeting in February.
Seconded by Mr. VanNort. Call for the question: All in
favor. MOTION CARRIED.
b. Proposal to amend the following sections of the
Town of Mount Pleasant Code of Ordinances as they pertain to
development approvals and expirations of the same:
Land Development Regulations
Section 155.021 Sketch plan submission and
review Zoning Code
Section 156.054 Impact Assessment
Section 156.413 Additional Procedures for BOZA
Section 156.433 Procedures for TAC
And to create Section 156.422 Procedures for DRB
Ms. Toropainen said staff was asked to review Town ordinances
as they pertain to development approval among various boards.
Staff was also asked to review whether there are any loopholes
in the current regulations or are contradictory to each other.
The amendment goal was to ensure that any applicable building
approvals have definite expiration dates. Staff wanted to
ensure each development approval expiration has an approved
process whereby an applicant may take an expiring approval to
the respective board to request an extension. The proposed
amendment changes are very “light”, and staff is not
introducing any extraordinary new regulations. Primarily, they
are trying to streamline to see if any details in the text need
to be addressed. Staff is trying to coordinate the regulations
so that all similar types of building provisions or decisions
carry through from one board approval to another. The two
major substantive changes are: introducing an expiration date
for sketch plans for projects not requiring an impact
assessment, and ensuring DRB has expiration dates for its
approvals. There is some language that can carry over from one
board process to another--requests for extensions. During the
Planning Commission’s public hearing no one spoke for or
against the item. The Planning Commission unanimously
recommended adoption of the amendments with two changes:
regarding the impact assessments where it reads “if
construction improvements lapse for a consecutive period of six
months or more…” the Planning Commission recommends that
the “or more” provision be taken out so the language will
read, “If construction improvements lapse for a consecutive
period of six months from the initial date of commencement…”.
The “or more” phrase would create an exception to the rule in
the new Planning Commission. Also, regarding impact
assessments, the Planning Commission recommended that the six
month period be determined by the building inspections office.
Language should be added pertaining to the field engineer’s
work regarding the inspections of the road improvements going
in residential subdivisions.
Mr. Bustos said the thrust of this is to remove the “or more”.
The six months would be a definite period, and the ambiguity
would be removed.
MOTION: Mr. Smith made a motion that the proposed changes in
the ordinances as presented in 5b be recommended to Council for
approval. Seconded by Mr. VanNort. Call for the question:
All in favor. MOTION CARRIED.
8. Request to change the zoning designation from AB,
Areawide Business, to PD, Planned Development, and to adopt a
planned development ordinance for an approximately 17.65 acre
high ground portion of parcel TMS#514-00-00-019, located at the
western terminus of Wingo Way adjacent to U.S. Highway 17.
Request for Impact Assessment approval also.
Mr. Ford said the next agenda item is related to this one.
Ms. Farrell said staff covered this item last month for
information only. The proposal is for a mixed use project to
be developed on 16.45 acres of high land on the main tract.
The tract also includes 1.11 acres of marsh islands to be
developed for passive uses. The developer is putting forth two
possible scenarios for the site--one including a 60,000 sf
office, 250 room hotel, and 166 condos; the other does not
include the hotel and increases the amount of office space to
150,000 sf. Within the PD guidelines for this property, the
developer would request a maximum building height of 80 feet
for Eastport Village instead of the allowed 50 feet. It would
be a mixed use development and ED project, but would also
include residential condos. Originally the developer wanted to
use ULI shared parking guidelines, but has since retracted that
since shared parking would not work there. The 166 units will
exceed the allowed density for the tract; total allowed should
be no more than 152. The sketch plan approval checklist
normally requires information regarding setbacks, tree removal,
replacement chart, exact number of parking spaces, lighting,
and garbage locations be shown on the sketches. This submittal
is a bubble plan that illustrates the approximate but not exact
location of buildings and parking. The conceptual master plan,
to some degree, does address the sketch plan approval
checklist. The developer owns several marsh islands adjacent
to the 16.54 acre site; they will not be developed, but the
Town will extend boardwalks for passive use development. The
final recommendation from Planning Commission included no more
than 152 units, the 80’ to be allowed, no request for reduced
setbacks on Wingo Way, developer responsible for additional
cost for installation of power lines underground, 1.11 acre of
marsh islands not to be developed but saved for public use. If
this project is approved as a Planned Development, then the
Bridgeport Office Complex can move forward. It would basically
be an amendment to the Eastport PD. If Eastport is not
approved, then the Bridgeport request cannot move forward.
Mr. Richard Coen, developer
Mr. Coen said the Planning Commission supported the project
conceptually, but three members did not vote in favor of the
project because of concerns over the number of buildings,
building locations, and the setbacks on Wingo Way. Similar
concerns were expressed at the last Planning Committee
meeting. Mr. Coen has tried to address those concerns. A
tract of land this large at this location presents an
opportunity to master plan the whole area. Right now it’s
zoned AB, so a number of uses could go there, or it could be
split up. A PD district gives the opportunity to master plan
the whole thing; but, he didn’t understand the level of detail
they were interested in as part of the zoning procedure. Staff
has given direction in what needs to be seen. He asked for
feedback so the plans can reflect what is agreed upon at the
December 9th meeting. Being the gateway to the Town made
everybody look at this in context of the area. The area was
the waterfront of Mount Pleasant facing downTown Charleston and
coming in on the new bridge. The Ness Motley project,
Patriot’s Point area, and the Wingo Way extension were included
in the area. He indicated on drawings the Bridgeport project--
two 30,000 sf buildings that have already received impact
assessment and DRB approval. The reason it is part of this
proposal is because the building was designed before the
implications of the new building code were realized, and the
structural steel has been doubled. The ceilings were dropped
because of the code, but they really want to have nine foot
ceilings. They want to add a foot to each floor and put a
higher pitch on the roof. The DRB wanted more verticality, and
it just got approved. This would have to go back to DRB if
this project is approved today. The plan is to go from 50’ to
55’ to allow for another foot on each floor.
Mr. Ford said the DRB has approved buildings that meet the
current code requirements.
Mr. Coen said if they get approval for the additional five
feet, the developer would redesign the building to add a foot
for each floor, increase the roof pitch a little, and then go
back to DRB for final approval in January, 2003. BOZA deemed
it not a hardship but an issue of height restrictions (i.e.
zoning).
Mr. Bustos said since this is part of the Peoplelease building
he recused himself for conflict of interest reasons.
Mr. Smith took over as chairman.
Mr. Burdette said the only way they can consider giving the
extra five feet is if the project becomes part of a PD that
includes Eastport. They cannot waive their own ordinances.
Mr. Coen said this is presented in context of the area. The
Ness Motley was approved for 80 feet. There is nowhere in
Mount Pleasant that he would propose an 80’ building except
here. They are trying to blend in with what’s existing and
make it balanced with verticality. Fifty foot on one side and
80’ on the other is not balanced. In comparison to the new
bridge’s massing, the difference between 50’ and 80’ is very
little. They are proposing the 80’, not because they need the
density, but because it’s appropriate. If it’s not appropriate
on the whole project, he would like feedback in case it’s
appropriate for part of the project. There was the suggestion
of trimming down the heights as they move away from the water.
A drawing of the new bridge’s size and perspective as it
relates to the existing buildings was shown. Mr. Coen said it
is absolutely massive.
Mr. Ford said it is much higher than 80’ from mean sea level.
The ground it is built on is 22 feet. So it’s really like 102’
high.
Mr. Coen said if the buildings get squished down and fatter, it
would miss something coming in to the Town. Mr. Smith asked
what the relationship is between Eastport and the Bridgeside
project. Eastport is actually closer to the bridge than the
existing Ness Motley building. It truly will frame the
entrance to the Town. This road and this connection will be
critical. This area could be a big shopping center or a movie
theater, things we already have in Town. Therefore, a well-
planned PD district would be an advantage. Mixed use would be a
good option because this site will hold about half the existing
office space the Town has right now. There is no class A
office space, so this presents a unique opportunity to
introduce a product for lease in the Town. If the hotel
doesn’t happen, then it would become office space. Both would
be considered ED, and the residential component would be
complementary and makes for a nice blend of uses.
Mr. VanNort clarified that all four structures would be 80’
tall.
Mr. Ford said the Planning Commission’s concern was they
thought it ought to be less than 80’ on the indicated side of
Wingo Way, towards Johnnie Dodds Boulevard. The property
immediately adjacent to it will be a future park site.
Mr. Coen said the option of tapering the heights as the
buildings move away from the water would take away from the
balance.
Mr. Gawrych said he is concerned about public access to the
waterfront. How will the islands be accessed?
Mr. Coen said they talked about a small parking area that is
not reflected on the plan, and then a walkway in the 35’ buffer
area that would connect to the Town’s waterfront park. Between
the Hilton and existing marina will be a harbor walk and
promenade, not unlike the Battery downTown. This property is
an incredible opportunity. Mr. Ford requested a building in
perspective--a section cut through the site. Mr. Coen
displayed the drawings of those sections. He indicated the
photos of view corridors through the surrounding
neighborhoods. The conclusion was that nobody’s view corridor
of the harbor or marsh was affected. Mr. Coen said he would
never do another bubble plan since they don’t show enough.
Without a master planning, you can’t know what’s going where.
The exhibit indicated shows a 35’ setback for the buildings
from Wingo Way. Staff recommended the building height be
measured so the tops would all be the same or less than
existing. The 35’ critical line buffer would be no less than
20 feet.
Mr. Gawrych asked who the controlling entity will be when the
Wingo Way extension is built out.
Mr. Morrison said that he’s not sure if that has been
absolutely determined.
Mr. Ford said right now it is a state road from Mathis Ferry to
Holiday Inn and then it stubs out and dead ends. After that
point, all the way over under the new bridge and past Ness
Motley will be built to all the various state criteria. But
they indicated during the sidewalk and pedestrian pathway
discussion, that section at Magrath Darby and Wingo Way under
the new bridge would be a local road. He thinks it will be
designed by DOT under their contract for the portion up to the
Bridgeside development.
Mr. VanNort said he doesn’t have big problems with the project
as long as he knows there are five buildings. There should be
no more buildings than that. As long as they stay within the
same general concept, he doesn’t see big problems.
Mr. Coen said he understood that a master plan would have to be
followed for the building locations, and there should be no
more than the number shown on the plat.
Mr. VanNort said he doesn’t like to approve something when
there’s too many variables.
Mr. Coen said this is a very unique piece of property. When
you give the developer some flexibility and business can be
attracted to stay in Mount Pleasant…AB will allow a residential
component above the other uses. It will allow office and
hotel. This is more restrictive in terms of your “control of
what’s ultimately built”, but it is less restrictive in terms
of setbacks, buffers, and being able to fill the uses with what
the demand is. If there’s no demand, the land will sit vacant
or possibly be an inferior project. For a nice, class A
project they need the zoning that allows flexibility. They
have really limited the flexibility when compared to AB
zoning. They could probably live with AB zoning, but this
would be a better…
Mr. Smith said contrary to Mr. VanNort, he does not believe the
80’ is appropriate for that side. The Committee has been very
stringent on that side. On the other side, the buildings did
not go from 50’ to 80’; the height limit there started at 75
feet. He cannot see changing the zoning to permit someone to
build 80’ buildings. It’s not a good enough reason.
MOTION: Mr. VanNort made a motion to make a recommendation to
Council for the approval of the request to change the zoning
designated from AB to PD, and to adopt a planned development
ordinance for approximately 17.65 acres with the parcel # TMS
514-00-00-019 located at the western terminus of Wingo Way
adjacent to Highway 17. Seconded by Mr. Gawrych. Discussion:
Mr. Gawrych asked for clarification. Mr. Ford said they should
clarify that it would be in accordance with the numbers that
Ms. Farrell read at the first, in terms of maximum amount of
office space, maximum hotel rooms, maximum number of
condominium units. Also, it would be a good idea to reference
the plans presented today that are labeled LA1 through LA8. He
asked if there were any other recommendations pertaining to
traffic improvements? Mr. Morrison said they were reflected in
staff comments for the current design. Ms. Farrell said the
other items were they could not request a variance from the
setbacks (35 as shown on LA8), installation of power lines
underground with the cost difference for doing so the
developer’s responsibility, and the marsh islands would not be
developed, but retained for passive recreation use. Mr.
Gawrych asked if they are saying that all five buildings will
be 80 feet. Mr. Ford said that is how he understood the
motion. Mr. VanNort said the maximum would be 80 feet. Mr.
Ford suggested rather than measuring the elevation from at the
ground level, it would be measured from the roof of the Ness
Motley building. They could stipulate 80’ measured from which
ever point they decide. It could be mean sea level or base
flood elevation or average lot grade. Mr. VanNort said he
thought Ness Motley was taken at sea level. Mr. Ford was
measured from the grade. Mr. Stuart Whitesides said it was
from 22, so the top
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